1 of 2 people found the following review helpful:
Definitely
not native speakers, May 14, 2004
The male speaker is passable, but the "native" female speaker is absolutely atrocious. All of my japanese friends have deemed her a fraud. She speaks with a weird accent that seems to be chinese in origin. I wouldn't be surprised if she's a native chinese speaker. Unfortunately, this "native" speaker is the female voice for Pimsleur Japanese II and III. So much for truth in advertising. While she is absolutely grating to the ears, I still find Pimsleur Japanese useful. Luckily, I received Japanese II and III as gifts. I would feel cheated if I had paid. |
2 of 3 people found the following review helpful:
Beware:
Speakers on CDs are Not Native Speakers!, April 21, 2004 That aside, you should know up front that the speakers in the Japanese 2 series, from which you will be modeling your speaking, are **not native speakers**. Ok, that may be a little harsh; the male speaker may **possibly** be a native speaker, but his accent is definitely non-standard -- and by standard, I mean the accepted Kanto dialect, which you will hear on NHK news broadcasts and just about any Japanese language audio program. My main criticism is with the female speaker (who according to the credits in the program book is one of the course's writers); her accent screams out at you as being not only non-standard, but non-native! I'm surprised at 1) Pimsleur's (i.e. Simon and Schuster) carelessness in not reviewing the quality of its speakers -- if the consumer is shelling out big bucks for this course, the very least Pimsleur should do is ensure that it uses standard accents to model; 2) the gall of the female speaker to pass herself off as a model speaker on a mass-distributed language program, especially one as popular as the Pimsleur program -- who the heck does she think she's fooling?! (Well, obviously she must have fooled the folks at Pimsleur!) Here's an analogy: as fluent in the English language as Henry Kissinger is, would you recommend him as a model speaker on an English language learning audio program? Or put another way, as a learner of English, would you want to model your accent after Dr. Kissinger? How about learning English by modeling Arnold Schwarzenegger's accent? How would you like to shell out over $300 for the privilege, not knowing what you were getting? Many people unsuspectingly have... Notes: |
1 of 1 people found the following review helpful:
Still
remains the best audio learning course for Japanese, October 23,
2003
Having finished Japanese I, and just a few hours ago finished Japanese II, I feel that the course was well worth the price. Pimsleur is still the best audio learning technique out there, and the course reinforces that fact. It well serves its purpose. Together you get 900 total minutes, 15 total hours of audio. That's quite a bit of content to listen to, and you do learn quite a bit from it. All you do is listen to the lessons, concentrate on them, and repeat it if you have trouble with something (Can't remember a word, grammar pattern, etc.). Yup, it's as simple as it sounds. I (As many others seem to) study other material in addition to Japanese II. I don't know if one could survive in Japan solely on Pimsleur lessons, but the quality of Pimsleur Lessons is still unsurpassed. I would highly recommend that you do other studies in addition to the Pimsleur Lessons, if time allows. Pimsleur is THE BEST audio language learning course out there, period. And with Pimsleur Japanese II, you get what you pay for, simple as that. |
16 of 16 people found the following review helpful:
Recommended,
August 8, 2002
I've finished both Pimsleur I and II and have just purchased III. I would recommend these for beginners who have the time to devote. My 30 minute drive commute makes them ideal. I and II took about five months of drivetime listening and review (60 lessons). One note, Pimsleur suggests not using a textbook but I would highly recommend getting a small textbook such as Berlitz' Essential Japanese for two reasons. First you may not be hearing the work correctly on the Pimsleur CDs/tapes and secondly, it is mush easier to remember a word if you know how its spelled in English (Romanji). Otherwise you may have to resort to creating cumbersome mnemonics to remember a word or phrase. One final note. You may find that after six months of study you are still utterly lost when watching some Japanese television shows. Take heart, many of those shows use informal language. Rent a movie like "Shall we Dance?" with its more formal politeness and you'll find your Pimsleur time and money investments paying off. |
9 of 9 people found the following review helpful:
After
Pimsleur, you can SPEAK..., February 5, 2002
not just string together (sometimes coherent) words into quasi-sentences. I am currently using this product to learn Japanese while living in Tokyo. I have and continue to study in more traditional language classes, but there emphasis is more on understanding speech, and on writing. You may learn (and remember) a lot of grammar and vocabulary from these classes, but for me, it is not at instant recall. You always have to pause, for just a second or two, to think of this word, or how to conjugate that verb, which ruins the continuity of your speech and your conversation. Pimsleur's method is highly effective at completely internalizing the basic structure of a language. You learn to say things and understand things at the speed of NORMAL SPEECH. In a traditional academic classroom, this is far from the case. Although I knew almost all the words and grammar presented in the Pimsleur course, I found that listening to the CDs was still immensely helpful just for internalization and "speedifying" purposes. Pimsleur is an excellent complement to serious study of a language. It would also be excellent for travellers who want to actually interact and converse with Japanese in interesting (albeit extremely limited) ways. |
1 of 1 people found the following review helpful:
The
best language system for busy people, September 10, 2001
I find this set of tapes to be an excellent way to learn
Japanese, and an even better method of refreshing what you learned
some time ago. Of course, if you are just starting out, you should
start with Japanese I. Even better...you can buy a short
introductory course, to see whether the system works for you. The
price of the short court includes a discount in that amount against
the price of the full course (or at least it did, when I first
bought one years ago). I listen to the tapes in my car, and find the
system very effective. I have also used Pimsleur tape courses in
Russian and French, and found them to be equally good. |